tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3734925856292601239.post1976951829874174542..comments2024-03-22T15:55:34.030-04:00Comments on Evo and Proud: Why podophilia?Peter Frosthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04303172060029254340noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3734925856292601239.post-57969418030883405022019-09-17T20:29:26.717-04:002019-09-17T20:29:26.717-04:00It's definitely a strange phenomenon given tha...It's definitely a strange phenomenon given that, unlike other fetishes, feet have no obvious connection to sex and aren't especially dimorphic.<br /><br />I would only add that, from my own extensive research on the topic (i.e. watching lots of porn), it seems that foot fetishism is often linked with a submissive BDSM-type fetish, related to the idea of prostrating oneself and grovelling at the dominant partner's feet. V E Lane "VEL - The Contemporary Heretic"https://www.blogger.com/profile/01460884208187211039noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3734925856292601239.post-58414055374940467822019-09-10T04:38:58.863-04:002019-09-10T04:38:58.863-04:00Is it just a coincidence that ballet, which many y...Is it just a coincidence that ballet, which many young girls like, has a lot of ankle flexion? Skipping is a girls thing. I think the stance in a situation where they feel sexy is probabally unconscious, with heels designers like Jimmy Choo merely taking advantage of it. The ankles are exposed more often than toes in designer high heels. Decorative ankle adornments and chains go back to Sumerian times <br /><br /> Traditional wives (the trousers and dress thing over it plus headscarf) of the Muslim countries do tend to wear open toe sandals in quite cold weather, but maybe they are more comfortable with sandals, a lot of people of both sexes like them. In the Islamic world you take off your shoes before entering a mosque, or house, and baring your feet in sandals is OK to wear in the street. In those countries that in sandals or bare, feet would get even dirtier than they do now. <br /><br />In my experience those traditional women will wear their headscarf back on their head or even take it off completely, and undo an extra button on the blouse if they are trying to attract your interest. Evidence for the exposed feet thing as cryptically exibitionistic or sexual in places like Iran and Pakistan is thin on the ground. The religious police in Iran when it was super strict were very definitely intolerant of bare ankles though.<br /><br />My impression is that in all times and places ankles being exposed has been considered a far more sexually provocative look than bare feet. "Barefoot and pregnant" is a saying that denotes a downtrodden dowdy type rather than a temptress. A much older saying is "a well-turned ankle", which dates from the early 17th century. Maybe a well flexed ankle was what they meant.Seannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3734925856292601239.post-70326632517196272162019-09-09T13:46:21.342-04:002019-09-09T13:46:21.342-04:00Luke,
Yes, that was my impression. I was hoping t...Luke,<br /><br />Yes, that was my impression. I was hoping to find a study that showed population differences in foot fetishism. My hypothesis is that foot fetishism should be more frequent in cultures where, historically, women were covered up in public (most of Eurasia). I would expect to see less of it in African Americans for instance.<br /><br />Sean,<br /><br />Women do this sort of thing unconsciously. It looks like a coevolution between foot fetishism in the male mind and foot exhibitionism in the female mind. Again, I wasn't able to find a lot on the subject.<br /><br />Bruce,<br /><br />It's probably arousing to different degrees in different men. There is probably a lot of variability even among men of the same ethnic or cultural background.<br /><br />Anon,<br /><br />Mammaphilia is understandable. Breast size and shape is very sex-specific.<br /><br />Michel,<br /><br />"Leg continuity" seems to be common in ballet. Many of the most popular movements emphasize pointing of the feet, as if the L-shaped position were less attractive. <br /><br />Yes, foot fetishism may originate in low-level sexual signaling that all men and women do unconsciously. There is also low-level sexual signaling with the face (winking, nodding, changes in pupil size) and the hands (more so in Middle Eastern cultures).Peter Frosthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04303172060029254340noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3734925856292601239.post-85856802738116977702019-09-08T12:04:44.793-04:002019-09-08T12:04:44.793-04:00If you think about it, feet might just be the idea...If you think about it, feet might just be the ideal stealth display to use as a selective courtship signal if certain configurations are more appealing, for instance pointed feet being more appealing, or soles being more arousing than the top side. Everybody can see anyone's face at pretty much any angle, there's no way to make it special except by giving certain direct looks, the hands also get to be commonly seen by all on both sides in any position so it's hard to see how a hand fetish could serve as an advantageous vector for courtship signaling. This leaves nipples and their ability to erect as a potential signal (but of little use in cultures where developed breasts are concealed), and that's mostly unconscious, and feet which are almost universally socially acceptable to display yet how they are shown (position and side shown) is selective and can be consciously controlled. Feet as a courtship signal can therefore be kept neutral (like flat on the ground) when not intended to be used to signal anything, and can be used in certain ways (like pointing one of them, standing on the balls of the feet or making the soles visible) to attract a more specific mating prospect in a way that I can hardly imagine ever being a cause for reprimand or social disapproval, making it a stealth signal that no one acknowledges as even being a signal but that is still effective.<br /><br />The other advantage is in the plausible deniability and therefore a low threshold for activation. Giving someone a direct suggestive look with your face says "hey you, yes you, let's get it on", which is a bit of a leap to take, whereas signaling with legs/feet says "hey you, check out how sexy I am. I didn't say I liked you though". So it's a much easier signal to trigger, you don't need to think twice about it just like I wouldn't think twice about adopting a good posture in anyone's presence (but I'm more likely to do it in the vicinity of suitable mates), and the way I see it it could happen entirely under the radar, both for the female signal emiter who might not fully consciously realise that she's using her legs for the purpose of seduction as well as for the male signal receiver who might not realise that this is a signal meant for him and would just think "this female is attractive", without necessarily even acknowledging any interest in feet.<br /><br />Mystery elucidated, at least as far as I'm concerned.Michel Rouzichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09919422635955113599noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3734925856292601239.post-38603318595029779372019-09-08T11:21:09.041-04:002019-09-08T11:21:09.041-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.Michel Rouzichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09919422635955113599noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3734925856292601239.post-69656579528335943202019-09-08T10:00:34.848-04:002019-09-08T10:00:34.848-04:00I think there could be another secondary mechanism...I think there could be another secondary mechanism at work, which is that it was easy to make feet attractive through evolution. Compare two opposite extremes, feet and labia. Feet were probably always the most commonly visible body part after the face and hands. So feet can easily become a factor in picking a mate, I would hate to marry a woman with ugly feet, and typically I would have an easy time selecting early against ugly feet. Labia is the opposite, no matter how I feel about being with a woman with aesthetically shocking labia not only will I probably not get to get a good look at it before being in some kind of commitment with the woman, which lowers the chances that I would select based on such a factor, but also pubic hair would commonly obscure the view, making labia aesthetic appeal an even lesser factor. And despite all the modern media putting labia on display I think that labia have failed to become revered let alone fetishised for their aesthetics the way feet have, not because of taboos but because it just doesn't look that great. My point is feet have become aesthetically more pleasant by being an easy trait to select for while labia are less aesthetically pleasant because pleasant-looking labia would always been very difficult to select for.<br /><br />I think Sean might really be on to something and it might be an unconscious part of the courtship process. As someone who feels that feet can either be very off-putting or quite aesthetically compelling I can confirm that the angle at the ankle is a major factor in how it looks. If the foot breaks the continuity of the leg by giving it an L shape this is quite unappealing, if the foot is in the continuation of the leg this is much more eye-catching. In other words if a woman stands upright with her feet flat on the ground, the most common and mundane position, I will most likely be indifferent to them, regardless of how the feet compare to others. So it could be that females use that to selectively attract mates, and that of course only works on males who are sensitive to such signals, therefore females more likely to use their feet for courtship and males being receptive would have a selective advantage. And of course high heels would serve the purpose of increasing attractiveness by putting them at a more eye-catching angle at all times, which is probably why high heels have been continuously fashionable for several generations.Michel Rouzichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09919422635955113599noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3734925856292601239.post-37582365270579752992019-09-06T08:57:16.192-04:002019-09-06T08:57:16.192-04:00I don't get it. Personally, I don't care a...I don't get it. Personally, I don't care about feet at all. I care about breasts though. Now that, my dear fellow evo&proud readers, is a worthy "philia." Catch the fever.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3734925856292601239.post-61178460197029426122019-09-05T06:42:08.229-04:002019-09-05T06:42:08.229-04:00Just a guess – bare feet could be a sign of submis...Just a guess – bare feet could be a sign of submissiveness, vulnerability? <br /><br />FWIW, I have noticed that some women take their shoes off and walk around the office barefoot – you never see men do this. The practice doesn’t seem arousing but I guess it seems “cute.”<br />Brucenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3734925856292601239.post-33450686016168627992019-09-05T04:41:05.388-04:002019-09-05T04:41:05.388-04:00As I recall, inexperienced girls will instinctivel...As I recall, inexperienced girls will instinctively go up on the balls of their feet if they are feeling flirtatious with you while they happen to be without footwear. That recreates the alignment high heels put the feet into. And female porn performers are told to point their toes at all times. My impression is that flexing the ankle is a sign of sexual receptiveness in women, which is why men are attracted to it and women simulate it with heels to look attractive. <br /><br /><a href="https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/5617979/zapping-partner-more-effective-than-foreplay/" rel="nofollow">The Tibial nerve vagina-ankle connection</a>.Seannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3734925856292601239.post-68757824133877241602019-09-04T23:40:05.141-04:002019-09-04T23:40:05.141-04:00The Chinese were extreme foot fetishists. Not sur...The Chinese were extreme foot fetishists. Not sure how that fits in.Luke Leahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11290760894780619646noreply@blogger.com