tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3734925856292601239.post2138858533654622205..comments2024-03-22T15:55:34.030-04:00Comments on Evo and Proud: And the North Koreans?Peter Frosthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04303172060029254340noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3734925856292601239.post-61053404345315089322011-12-18T18:42:06.564-05:002011-12-18T18:42:06.564-05:00"The US from the beginning was mixed, from th..."The US from the beginning was mixed, from the first son of Native and English descent, to our African slaves, to the Mexicans that remained in what had been their country, to all the immigrants the world over that built our country.<br /><br />We haven't abandoned the idea of the nation-state, we were founded with flagrant disregard for it."<br /><br />Anonymous, please read some history for god´s sake, first of all less than 10 % of all US population share native american genes, The mexican territories almost had NO MEXICANS in it, that´s why they were fell prey to massive immigration from European settlers. Contrary to what you have been taught America was founded as European nation in Americas not a mixed nation like Mexico or Colombia. Such a situation had its advantages and disadvantages.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3734925856292601239.post-53381185796692825472011-10-18T15:54:36.321-04:002011-10-18T15:54:36.321-04:00"There are useful idiots on our side too. A l..."There are useful idiots on our side too. A lot of academics are in the pocket of different interest groups."<br /><br />I wouldn't dream of denying this, it's certainly true. But just as our useful idiots are not a good guide to what ordinary Americans are thinking, Burce Cumings is not a reliable guide to what North Koreans are thinking. That's all I was sayingAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3734925856292601239.post-70898361494525678122011-10-07T15:40:24.238-04:002011-10-07T15:40:24.238-04:00The population is aging but the Japanese depressio...The population is aging but the Japanese depression has given them more political traction. The economic motive for immigration is greatest during growth.<br /><br />The Japanese are uniquely resistant to foreign influences - never a colony and the only non European country to industrialize. They also defeated the massive Mongol invasions. OK, they had typhoons to thank but the economic climate may be a new version of the 'Divine Wind'. I<br /><br />I have to admit that in the Japanese case cultural independence of America is a crucial factor.<br /><br /> Anonymous, Native Americans are the only ones who of whom can be said 'America was their country'. Their way of life was not a bad way of life while it lasted but they didn't organize to prevent immigration from changing things.<br /><br />How is that working out for them ?Todnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3734925856292601239.post-45948718718753528642011-10-06T21:17:20.771-04:002011-10-06T21:17:20.771-04:00''We'' have abandoned the idea of ...''We'' have abandoned the idea of the nation-state?<br /><br />The US from the beginning was mixed, from the first son of Native and English descent, to our African slaves, to the Mexicans that remained in what had been their country, to all the immigrants the world over that built our country.<br /><br />We haven't abandoned the idea of the nation-state, we were founded with flagrant disregard for it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3734925856292601239.post-82973223557229702392011-10-06T16:14:20.332-04:002011-10-06T16:14:20.332-04:00Tod,
How would you explain the case of Japan? The...Tod,<br /><br />How would you explain the case of Japan? They've had below-replacement fertility for a longer time than South Korea has had, yet the Japanese have not opened their borders do the extent that the South Koreans have.<br /><br />Ben,<br /><br />There are a lot of Chinese immigrants in South Korea, but the Chinese governement is not encouraging this migration. The Chinese workforce is actually starting to shrink and there are signs that demand for labor in China is starting to outstrip supply.<br /><br />All of this seemed impossible a few years ago. The Chinese countryside was supposed to be a vast untapped source of labor. The well may run dry sooner than had been thought.Peter Frostnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3734925856292601239.post-45074592428683097172011-10-06T09:38:35.219-04:002011-10-06T09:38:35.219-04:00Why don't koreans import chinese male workers?...Why don't koreans import chinese male workers?Ben10noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3734925856292601239.post-88669127078411576952011-10-05T16:21:44.915-04:002011-10-05T16:21:44.915-04:00Supply and demand, the proportion of of young onl...Supply and demand, the proportion of of young only has to fall slightly for there to be competition among employers to recruit them thus driving up wages. (Just like relatively little immigration is capable of driving up house prices).<br /><br />I think that the birthrate falling causes the economic motive and weakens the ability of the population to combat the business class (because old populations lack the masses of young men necessary for a sucessful radical nationalist movements).<br /><br />The business class' mercenary motive to import labor has always been present to a certain extent Wages have always been high in western countries. What stopped them was nationalism among the populations, until recently all populations included lots of young people.Todnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3734925856292601239.post-61876615725300533152011-10-04T21:34:41.685-04:002011-10-04T21:34:41.685-04:00UncleTom,
The opinion survey data suggest a sharp...UncleTom,<br /><br />The opinion survey data suggest a sharp decline in nationalist sentiment in South Korea.<br /><br />Tod,<br /><br />The below-replacement birth rate is often invoked as a reason for immigration, but it's really a red herring. Immigration from low-wage countries to high-wage countries will proceed as long as their is a wage differential.<br /><br />Anon,<br /><br />There are useful idiots on our side too. A lot of academics are in the pocket of different interest groups. Don't tell me it's not true. Sometimes the only way to find out the truth is to listen to two "idiots" with opposing views.Peter Frostnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3734925856292601239.post-48449364025797077522011-10-04T13:30:43.491-04:002011-10-04T13:30:43.491-04:00This doesn't affect the point being made here,...This doesn't affect the point being made here, but Cumings isn't really a reliable source for what ordinary people in the DPRK. He pretty much parrots whatever the government in Pyongyang is selling, and in the early '80's he was in full "useful idiot" mode. Just a cautionary word...<br /><br />TschaferAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3734925856292601239.post-63646983214098017512011-10-04T12:31:46.543-04:002011-10-04T12:31:46.543-04:00The baby boomers generation was something less tha...The baby boomers generation was something less than a youth bulge and mass immigration only got going once they had aged.<br /><br /> While it is correct that youth bulges can lead to radical political movements of the right or left the presence of excess young men (all clamoring for jobs and status) would make it impossible for a government to import foreigners. <br /><br />Moreover there would be no economic motive for the importation of labor if the country was teeming with jobless young people. A youth deficit creates the economic motive for importing foreigners and means the population is unable to politically mobilize against it.Todnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3734925856292601239.post-65014002860605616732011-10-03T20:45:13.508-04:002011-10-03T20:45:13.508-04:00they can only influence societies in the circumsta...<i>they can only influence societies in the circumstances of a 'youth deficit' so those deconstructing national feeling are 'piling on' taking advantage of the situation but they didn't bring it about.</i><br /><br />The counter-culture involved the Baby Boomers, a large, young population. It didn't arise with a "youth deficit".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3734925856292601239.post-29918662959349700042011-10-03T15:56:12.421-04:002011-10-03T15:56:12.421-04:00I think the alterations in birthrate are the key f...I think the alterations in birthrate are the key factor. Look at the Arab Spring, in countries with a high proportion of young the government can't control the radical nationalism of the population.<br /><br />It seems to be a law that economic success leads to a falling birthrate. Once that happens all kinds of interest groups come out the woodwork to preach economic globalism, multiculturalism and process theology. Their motives range from mercenary-economic to considerably more nefarious ethnic strategizing but, they can only influence societies in the circumstances of a 'youth deficit' so those deconstructing national feeling are 'piling on' taking advantage of the situation but they didn't bring it about. It was the superior qualities of the nation group that brought about economic success and the consequent demographic implosion. <br /><br />The populations in advanced countries are quite helpless to halt the dismantling of their nations, they don't have the high proportion of young that are required for the kind of radical mass movement which would be required to stop the ideological termites.<br /><br />Given that the future is a function of the birthrate, aren't the new 'cultural norms' (in which the indigenous population have <i>negative</i> rights), just rationalizing an inevitable consequence of the developments in advanced countries ?Todnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3734925856292601239.post-70747432791882735862011-10-03T04:58:08.972-04:002011-10-03T04:58:08.972-04:00"The average person has a long way to go.&quo..."The average person has a long way to go."<br /><br />To become what, Uncle Tom? To become like Whites? Who surrender their nations and kill themselves? <br /><br />I'll have you know I'm Asian, and I find the the multicultural/multiracial disease of the West to be completely detestable.<br /><br />Asia or the rest of the world does not need that. There's nothing wrong with being racist if it keeps one's country homogenous.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3734925856292601239.post-5738583623592249652011-10-03T01:39:22.186-04:002011-10-03T01:39:22.186-04:00When I lived in Japan about a decade ago, we went ...When I lived in Japan about a decade ago, we went to South Korea for the weekend (as many Japanese do) for sightseeing and shopping. We also had a mutual Korean friend in Seoul. Our first night out on the town a group of drunk Koreans started abusing us in broken Korean and English. Apparently they thought I was an American soldier with a Korean woman. They were not pleased. If you google this type of thing, you will see it still happens, there are many blog posts about drunk racist Koreans harassing and even attacking foreigners. I had lived in Japan for a year at that time and never had this happen. Japanese are usually happy drunks. Then again Japanese tend to have a stereotype that Koreans are "aggressive/emotional".<br /><br />A decade later it seems despite this that Korea is globalizing and opening up at a faster rate than Japan. :-O This is quite interesting, but I'm interested to see what the situation is like on the street. Elite musing about theoretical mumbo-jumbo is not necessarily reflective of what is happening on the ground. In my experience South Koreans are more nationalistic than people from Japan, Taiwan, and perhaps many in Mainland China. the average person has a long way to go.UncleTomRuckusInGoodWhiteWorldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07508650487951730570noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3734925856292601239.post-79527343127355068642011-10-02T07:42:53.061-04:002011-10-02T07:42:53.061-04:00"the outdated idea that blood relationships a..."the outdated idea that blood relationships are a key organizing principle of society"<br /><br />Just how is this outdated?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3734925856292601239.post-80220328433873463752011-10-01T21:40:12.507-04:002011-10-01T21:40:12.507-04:00North Korea seems to be national socialist.
South...North Korea seems to be national socialist.<br /><br />South Korea was similarly strongly nationalist. It had an authoritarian, nationalist regime like North Korea, just with state capitalism rather than socialism. <br /><br />This began to change in 1993 when they had their first civilian president who was a democratic activist and explicitly promoted an internationalization policy called "segyehwa" in Korean which literally means "globalization".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com