tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3734925856292601239.post4358217120055025407..comments2024-03-22T15:55:34.030-04:00Comments on Evo and Proud: The Great DeclinePeter Frosthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04303172060029254340noreply@blogger.comBlogger33125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3734925856292601239.post-2031227016947612472022-09-29T12:02:01.400-04:002022-09-29T12:02:01.400-04:00Peter, thanks for the reply. Seems odd the SDs wo...Peter, thanks for the reply. Seems odd the SDs would be so small (maybe you're thinking of the standard error?). Anyway, I'll try to reach out to Piffer.Pumpkin Personhttp://pumpkinperson.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3734925856292601239.post-23517411415530413562022-09-28T11:27:55.101-04:002022-09-28T11:27:55.101-04:00I HAAATE not have
Grrrrr I HAAATE not have <br /><br />Grrrrr Santocoolnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3734925856292601239.post-90422011009555536432022-09-28T11:27:23.921-04:002022-09-28T11:27:23.921-04:00My last shoot for this shitty blog
https://the-bi...My last shoot for this shitty blog<br /><br />https://the-big-ger-picture.blogspot.com/2019/09/the-psychology-and-biology-of-gifted.html?m=1<br /><br />I have intellectual monotony... really Santocoolnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3734925856292601239.post-82098156907846611842022-09-27T16:23:51.692-04:002022-09-27T16:23:51.692-04:00Pumpkin,
The y axis is average polygenic score. F...Pumpkin,<br /><br />The y axis is average polygenic score. For each decade, the SD of the PGS is plus or minus 0.01 (approximately). So your calculations are off by a factor of 10, even if one accepts your premises.<br /><br />There are ways to convert PGS into IQ. Davide Piffer might help you.Peter Frosthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04303172060029254340noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3734925856292601239.post-20548093866816749222022-09-26T15:05:22.241-04:002022-09-26T15:05:22.241-04:00Good guessGood guessAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3734925856292601239.post-34285359352541229452022-09-26T14:55:58.160-04:002022-09-26T14:55:58.160-04:00you know who this is PP
My guess is Loaded<i>you know who this is PP</i><br /><br />My guess is LoadedPumpkin Personhttp://pumpkinperson.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3734925856292601239.post-43960562559132817522022-09-26T13:17:09.718-04:002022-09-26T13:17:09.718-04:00whoa Pumpkin featuring Peter Frost would be an exc...whoa Pumpkin featuring Peter Frost would be an excellent rap video. you know who this is PP. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3734925856292601239.post-81131042713892333092022-09-26T10:51:56.615-04:002022-09-26T10:51:56.615-04:00"Interesting, if true. But the chart seems to...<br />"Interesting, if true. But the chart seems to say otherwise. Please enlighten me."<br /><br />The chart says polygenic scores were about +0.10 SD circa 1915 and about -0.05 circa 1985. That's a decrease of only 0.15 SD or 2 IQ points. Is that even statistically significant given the sample sizes?Pumpkin Personhttp://pumpkinperson.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3734925856292601239.post-22371926341182380772022-09-25T22:06:57.072-04:002022-09-25T22:06:57.072-04:00I think the feminist ideology is responsible for a...I think the feminist ideology is responsible for a greater masculinization of roles for women that they are encouraged and pushed into. Negatively impacting fertility.<br /><br />Especially for more brighter women. On the other hand wealthy men have far less issue reproducing.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3734925856292601239.post-58322961301547910752022-09-25T18:13:18.899-04:002022-09-25T18:13:18.899-04:00"By "marriageable men", I mean some..."By "marriageable men", I mean something conditioned by the subjective preferences of women"<br /><br />That distinction is important. I sometimes hear women complain about the lack of marriageable men, but they're like employers who complain about "jobs going begging" or "vegetables rotting in the fields." Sometimes, people have unrealistic expectations, and this is true for both men and women.Peter Frosthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04303172060029254340noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3734925856292601239.post-41602616156845230012022-09-25T18:10:55.672-04:002022-09-25T18:10:55.672-04:00"A decline 0.15 SD, two whole IQ points."..."A decline 0.15 SD, two whole IQ points."<br /><br />Interesting, if true. But the chart seems to say otherwise. Please enlighten me.Peter Frosthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04303172060029254340noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3734925856292601239.post-56740158039817515002022-09-25T02:11:23.297-04:002022-09-25T02:11:23.297-04:00Wow. A decline 0.15 SD, two whole IQ points. Les...Wow. A decline 0.15 SD, two whole IQ points. Less than the standard error on the population averages.readingnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3734925856292601239.post-58863229334982169482022-09-25T00:36:52.107-04:002022-09-25T00:36:52.107-04:00Bullshit. I personally know several single men who...<i>Bullshit. I personally know several single men who have good jobs and own their homes, and they can't find women who are interested in marriage, other than single mothers.</i><br /><br />By "marriageable men", I mean something conditioned by the subjective preferences of women, not simply objective measures. I agree that by objective measures, there are many single men who have good jobs, incomes, property. But this is less desirable in the subjective preferences of women when they can support themselves economically, have access to jobs, careers themselves, etc.<br /><br /><i>I agree with your point that women are more financially independent, and one consequence is that women are taking longer to commit (and they often commit to men who are high on "personality" and low on financial stability). We are seeing the same phenomenon in East Asia, where feminism is much less present.</i><br /><br />"Feminism" has a lot of ideological baggage and lots of various connotations. It probably wasn't the best idea to introduce the term in this discussion.<br /><br /><i>In sum, I agree with much of what you say. Unfortunately, you also tend to repeat a lot of dubious talking points from the manosphere.</i><br /><br />I don't consider myself part of the manosphere and I don't really see them discuss these details and issues in depth.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3734925856292601239.post-49348669429349760702022-09-24T14:11:13.766-04:002022-09-24T14:11:13.766-04:00Anon,
Actually, most of the fertility decline too...Anon,<br /><br />Actually, most of the fertility decline took place before the Great Depression. I would give the reasons for that decline as follows:<br /><br />- migration to the cities, where children are not needed for farm labor<br />- fragmentation of inter-generational ties. People were less certain that their children and grandchildren would support them in their old age.<br />- beginnings of "youth culture," glorification of singlehood in movies and popular literature.<br />- weakening of social pressure from religion and community<br /><br />"The pool of marriageable men is simply much smaller today" Bullshit. I personally know several single men who have good jobs and own their homes, and they can't find women who are interested in marriage, other than single mothers.<br /><br />I agree with your point that women are more financially independent, and one consequence is that women are taking longer to commit (and they often commit to men who are high on "personality" and low on financial stability). We are seeing the same phenomenon in East Asia, where feminism is much less present.<br /><br />In sum, I agree with much of what you say. Unfortunately, you also tend to repeat a lot of dubious talking points from the manosphere.<br /><br />September 24, 2022 at 2:09:00 PM EDT Peter Frosthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04303172060029254340noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3734925856292601239.post-28102931847902922562022-09-22T17:30:29.301-04:002022-09-22T17:30:29.301-04:00...but I would not doubt if this couple were not a......but I would not doubt if this couple were not also predominantly irrational, if this has been the human rule, the only species that can be rational and therefore irrational.Santocoolnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3734925856292601239.post-36145168961163947502022-09-22T17:28:49.530-04:002022-09-22T17:28:49.530-04:00''Santocool,
The Brazilian couple I met d...''Santocool,<br /><br />The Brazilian couple I met didn't seem "stupid" or "irrational." They didn't claim to have any magic solutions to Brazil's problems. They just said that life was becoming unlivable.<br /><br />"Chacun a ses raisons." There is always a reason for human action. The reason may seem wrong or illegitimate, but it's still a reason.''<br /><br /><br />Dear Peter,<br /><br />If it were, I wouldn't analyze a country's socioeconomic situation based on just one report...<br /><br />I didn't say the couple you're talking to is irrational or their reasons.<br /><br />Is arming a population a magic solution for you?<br /><br /><br />Dear Peter,<br /><br />The word ''reason'', both in your language and in mine, has more than one meaning.<br /><br />And honestly, whenever someone uses a phrase in French, I get a little suspicious, because France is a pathetic country, land of ''modern philosophy'', which is mostly-pathetic.Santocoolnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3734925856292601239.post-78747896348212685142022-09-22T00:17:03.287-04:002022-09-22T00:17:03.287-04:00Peter,
Yes, urbanization and the Great Depression...Peter,<br /><br />Yes, urbanization and the Great Depression correlated with the decline to the '30s, although I don't see why that would be inconsistent. The Depression resulted in large numbers of men being unemployed/underemployed for a long time, lowering their relative economic status considerably. <br /><br />As for the baby boom consisting of more widespread fertility and family formation, isn't that relevant to our discussion? I presume we're talking about synthesizing fertility in the context of a social norm of relatively widespread life long monogamy and family formation. Obviously you could have a scenario in which polygyny was dominant and have high fertility while the economic conditions and prospects for most men were poor. But we're assuming a social norm of relatively widespread life long monogamy and family formation, no?<br /><br />If we aren't assuming that, then it'd be true that sexual egalitarianism in the non-domestic economic, professional, and public sphere would be less relevant. Greater economic independence and status for women and consequent lower economic status for men in general would matter less for fertility if polygyny were a norm and more women could get impregnated by a minority of higher status men. <br /><br />The issue to me seems that we have a long legacy of lifelong monogamy based on female dependence on male breadwinners, and that this has been disrupted in a relatively short time by women becoming as economically independent as men, making the modal man much less desirable and acceptable as a spouse. There is data suggesting women now do better than men in higher and professional education and in the workforce. And about 1 in 7 men in prime working age 25 to 54 in America are not working today. The most upper ranks of high status jobs and positions in society and levels of wealth are still dominated by men, but the average man has certainly seen a significant relative decline over the past few generations.<br /><br />Women with a certain level of educational, professional, class, income status generally use their economic independence and younger fertile years these days seeking men who are at a minimum of the same rough level as themselves and preferably higher as potential spouses and mates. The pool of marriageable men is simply much smaller today.<br /><br />The simple material economic explanation is not sufficient. Orthodox Jews and the Amish for example don't have a material economic advantage over ordinary secular men today. What the men in those communities still have today is greater relative social status within their culture.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3734925856292601239.post-62946650606097559662022-09-21T21:29:58.837-04:002022-09-21T21:29:58.837-04:00Santocool,
The Brazilian couple I met didn't ...Santocool,<br /><br />The Brazilian couple I met didn't seem "stupid" or "irrational." They didn't claim to have any magic solutions to Brazil's problems. They just said that life was becoming unlivable. <br /><br />"Chacun a ses raisons." There is always a reason for human action. The reason may seem wrong or illegitimate, but it's still a reason.Peter Frosthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04303172060029254340noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3734925856292601239.post-64132759915773455322022-09-21T14:54:10.125-04:002022-09-21T14:54:10.125-04:00Frost,
Many white brazilian people vote for someo...Frost,<br /><br />Many white brazilian people vote for someone who want liberalize guns for ordinary people (it will not reduce criminality. Brazil is not Switzerland or Finland: little populations with high avg IQ and relatively normal empathy levels) and that don't care about real issues related with criminality including the heavy proportion of criminal men within brazilian police (militias). It's not just that: global warming/environmental destruction, high living cost & low salaries and social inequality (contributes to criminality). <br /><br />And Brazil has no problem with immigration yet. Great majority of bolsonaro supporters are significantly ignorant about Brazil socioeconomic issues. Most them are just irrational or stupid. Similar thing happens for trump supporters.<br /><br />Sorry if your precious white race is mostly composed by irrational people.Santocoolnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3734925856292601239.post-65930125180194269922022-09-21T11:46:50.227-04:002022-09-21T11:46:50.227-04:00Jb,
For the Igbo? No, that's the first item on...Jb,<br />For the Igbo? No, that's the first item on my wish list.<br /><br />Santocool,<br /><br />White Brazilians vote for Bolsonaro, for the same reason that White Americans vote for Trump: fears about personal security and globalization. I used to know a young Brazilian couple who had emigrated to Quebec City. They weren't rich or "privileged." They said life was becoming too dangerous for everyone in Brazil, unless you were super rich with private security.<br /><br />Yeong,<br /><br />Most people would agree with you. Unfortunately, abortion has become a political football.<br /><br />Anonymous,<br /><br />Fertility rates declined considerably from the late 19th century to the 1930s. Feminism was, at most, a secondary cause. The main reason was the migration from the country to the city, where conditions for family formation were less favorable. The baby boom was not due primarily to families becoming larger. It was largely due to babies being born to people who, previously, would not have had children. For the most part, these were people of the impoverished middle class. The postwar economic boom gave them the means to have children they otherwise would not have had.Peter Frosthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04303172060029254340noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3734925856292601239.post-12522348082263700002022-09-19T22:31:00.364-04:002022-09-19T22:31:00.364-04:00Hi everyone,
I've been ill for the past few d...Hi everyone,<br /><br />I've been ill for the past few days (and in no position to delete comments). I have deleted the threatening and/or racist comments, but I'm still too weak to reply to the more sensible ones. I'll try tomorrow.Peter Frosthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04303172060029254340noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3734925856292601239.post-46192471350318609542022-09-17T21:55:22.670-04:002022-09-17T21:55:22.670-04:00Fine Piece of Shit Frost you leave me no choice!
...Fine Piece of Shit Frost you leave me no choice! <br /><br />I must take you down along with your blog! You will rue the day! Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3734925856292601239.post-22491520406972945982022-09-17T10:20:15.779-04:002022-09-17T10:20:15.779-04:00If my comments are taken down I will make sure thi...If my comments are taken down I will make sure this website gets taken down for threats against my life! <br /><br />So be careful everyone! Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3734925856292601239.post-53009403501441711612022-09-16T16:01:16.569-04:002022-09-16T16:01:16.569-04:00What you said is just a reiteration of the definit...What you said is just a reiteration of the definition of rationality not its links to IQ! See you cant even answer your own questions! Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3734925856292601239.post-40962129915602557732022-09-16T07:01:24.131-04:002022-09-16T07:01:24.131-04:00"No one can understand"
Extraordinary c..."No one can understand"<br /><br />Extraordinary claim.<br />Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00031711659940029464noreply@blogger.com