tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3734925856292601239.post4237768950287574930..comments2024-03-22T15:55:34.030-04:00Comments on Evo and Proud: The demon within. Part IIPeter Frosthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04303172060029254340noreply@blogger.comBlogger29125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3734925856292601239.post-34405546701993211152011-08-01T15:58:51.676-04:002011-08-01T15:58:51.676-04:00Hello! My name is David and I am currently enrolle...Hello! My name is David and I am currently enrolled in University in efforts to study Anthropology. I must say that your essays are very interesting! In Mexico, society calls men who are cuckolded "cuernudos" meaning with "horns". I had no idea that this was the equivalent to cuckold in english! This is why I am deeply passionate about learning Anthropology! Thank You! I will keep reading your blog!Davidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12377534862146766180noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3734925856292601239.post-77305813605457835562011-05-28T00:50:08.693-04:002011-05-28T00:50:08.693-04:00"If 17th-century England is the ground zero f..."If 17th-century England is the ground zero for cuckold envy, where was it beforehand? In some yet unknown human population?"<br /><br />I think that if you are basing the ground zero for this hypothetical parasite on written references, you are not taking into account the psychological and societal pressures that may have prevented this kind of information from being passed down previously. The ability to admit to and explore one's fetishes publicly or semi-publicly is the privilege of individuals who are not so concerned with basic survival.<br /><br />It seems to me that the more appropriate way to find out about the origins of such a parasite would be to find the parasite and then study the story in its DNA.GreenGlassnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3734925856292601239.post-59758994594501710842011-05-22T08:27:29.609-04:002011-05-22T08:27:29.609-04:00"From what I saw in my Google search, interra..."From what I saw in my Google search, interracial porn seems to cater to Euro-Americans and, increasingly, Western Europeans. I found a few Japanese sites, so there may also be some interest in East Asia.<br /><br />I found no evidence of interracial porn designed for African Americans, i.e., African American men being turned on by images of white men having sex with black women. I came across a forum where one commenter said that interracial cuckoldry is a White American thing. Black American men are involved as "enablers" and not as "consumers."<br /><br />While this is just anecdotal evidence, I have seen cuckold-envy porn sites involving white men and black women. It generally involves American Southern men or KKK members sleeping with a black man's black wife.<br /><br />I also remember reading somewhere on the internet from a guy (who claimed to be) involved in the porn industry that most patrons of white female/black male cuckold sites were white men and most patrons of white male/black female cuckold sites were black men.<br /><br />Of course, I never bookmarked these sites/web pages, so you should probably take everything I said with a grain of salt.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3734925856292601239.post-27931787443864437202011-05-20T15:06:06.394-04:002011-05-20T15:06:06.394-04:00From what I saw in my Google search, interracial p...From what I saw in my Google search, interracial porn seems to cater to Euro-Americans and, increasingly, Western Europeans. I found a few Japanese sites, so there may also be some interest in East Asia.<br /><br />I found no evidence of interracial porn designed for African Americans, i.e., African American men being turned on by images of white men having sex with black women. I came across a forum where one commenter said that interracial cuckoldry is a White American thing. Black American men are involved as "enablers" and not as "consumers."Peter Frostnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3734925856292601239.post-74492354982708801552011-05-20T14:28:49.202-04:002011-05-20T14:28:49.202-04:00There's nothing all that unusual about vicario...<i>There's nothing all that unusual about vicarious experiences.<br /><br />Loving to watch sports, betting on them, envying those with athletic talent (as with all other kinds of talent) are no different than enjoying fiction--vicarious thrills/experiences.</i><br /><br />Sure. But "cuckold envy" could also be characterized as "vicarious thrills/experiences".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3734925856292601239.post-76795400028830709152011-05-20T12:34:18.621-04:002011-05-20T12:34:18.621-04:00"What about things like the contemporary spor..."What about things like the contemporary sports industry, where white males expend great amounts of time, energy, money as fans on black males, ultimately paying for their huge salaries and providing them with high social and sexual status?"<br /><br />There's nothing all that unusual about vicarious experiences.<br /><br />Loving to watch sports, betting on them, envying those with athletic talent (as with all other kinds of talent) are no different than enjoying fiction--vicarious thrills/experiences.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3734925856292601239.post-38714807132887532432011-05-20T01:47:35.379-04:002011-05-20T01:47:35.379-04:00Is interracial cuckold porn really geared towards ...Is interracial cuckold porn really geared towards white cuckold fetishists? My guess would be that the primary market for this product would be black men who love the idea of sex with white women.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3734925856292601239.post-31595356412671236602011-05-19T23:04:34.255-04:002011-05-19T23:04:34.255-04:00Are you aware of the rampant betting on comtemp sp...<i>Are you aware of the rampant betting on comtemp sports in the US among males? Esp. football.<br /><br />The players are like race horses.</i><br /><br />Yes I'm aware of sports betting. Though I don't think horse racing is analogous since the majority of interest in contemporary major professional sports isn't simply due to gambling. And regardless of how much gambling is a factor, the fact remains that extraordinary amounts of time, energy, money, etc. are expended by the male fans to build up the high social and sexual status of the pro athletes. The male fans don't gain any social or sexual status.<br /><br />Women also have a weird thing for horses.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3734925856292601239.post-82006996503897087462011-05-19T20:00:05.269-04:002011-05-19T20:00:05.269-04:00"What about things like the contemporary spor..."What about things like the contemporary sports industry, where white males expend great amounts of time, energy, money as fans on black males, ultimately paying for their huge salaries and providing them with high social and sexual status?"<br /><br />Are you aware of the rampant betting on comtemp sports in the US among males? Esp. football. <br /><br />The players are like race horses.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3734925856292601239.post-30875877373911514052011-05-19T03:28:05.354-04:002011-05-19T03:28:05.354-04:00In contrast, cuckold envy severely compromises rep...<i>In contrast, cuckold envy severely compromises reproductive success. I have trouble understanding how such a predisposition could persist in any human population. It's not as if sexual jealousy is something that men learn. Male sexual jealousy appears to be very hardwired.</i><br /><br />What about things like the contemporary sports industry, where white males expend great amounts of time, energy, money as fans on black males, ultimately paying for their huge salaries and providing them with high social and sexual status?<br /><br />It's kind of like a softcore version of cuckold envy fetishism.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3734925856292601239.post-2441922600884490382011-05-18T02:09:03.083-04:002011-05-18T02:09:03.083-04:00Peter asks: "Is there any ethnographic eviden...Peter asks: "<i>Is there any ethnographic evidence for cuckold envy in sub-Saharan Africa? Indifference to cuckoldry is fairly common. But cuckold envy?</i>"<br /><br />I would expect cuckhold envy to be an evolutionarily unstable state unless there were something preventing the alphas from vertical transmission -- which is very unlikely as they are the primary germ-line.<br /><br />Vertical transmission is oppositional to horizontal transmission in terms of coadaptation, so I would expect that once a pathogen evolved that induced cuckold envy -- thereby selecting out the susceptible male population -- the remaining male population would be in vertical transmission heaven. Cook for the required number of generations, export to a monogamous culture and its time to start rationalizing all those strange limbic impulses in "the arts"!Jim Boweryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12686155123469135528noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3734925856292601239.post-21326194925638722752011-05-17T21:28:21.696-04:002011-05-17T21:28:21.696-04:00Guys, I've totally got this...
I have a theor...Guys, I've totally got this...<br /><br />I have a theory that sexual kink (this is a kink not a fetish) derives from a psychotic reaction to stimuli. Where the person is unable to reconcile a fundamental aspect of sexuality with reality and tries to push the facet of reality out of their lives only to have the thing in mention resurface as a kink.<br />Half of it is that you agree to award this thing (cuckoldry, beastiality, rape, torture) with SPECIAL SIGNIFICANCE, however you conscious mind is abhorred by the decision so it rejects it.<br /><br />The resulting psychotic episode then brings the conflict back as a highly arousing sexual kink. In a way you BOTH choose and reject your kinks and that why they cause so much arousal. If you lose the kink you simply you simply ignore it, as opposed to what many kinksters do which is try to defy it! But resistance is futile because the resistance is itself a sign the you continue to attach a special significance to the kink.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3734925856292601239.post-72507034993426077392011-05-17T17:06:25.333-04:002011-05-17T17:06:25.333-04:00Tod writes:
One thing which is remarkable about p...Tod writes:<br /><br /><i>One thing which is remarkable about porn today is the amount of anal sex in it, sometimes to the exclusion of vaginal</i><br /><br />Could this be related to a pathogen that promotes promiscuity? I've heard that anal sex is more conducive to pathogen transmission. And promoting anal sex also have the effect of promoting homosexuality and thus more promiscuity generally.Franknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3734925856292601239.post-27838426375162411622011-05-17T16:40:33.996-04:002011-05-17T16:40:33.996-04:00Peter,
If 17th century England is ground zero for...Peter,<br /><br /><i>If 17th century England is ground zero for the Western world, it's very unlikely that the hypothetical pathogen came from PNG or Australia. So sub-Saharan Africa looks like a prime suspect.</i><br /><br />So since cuckold envy appears to have been abnormal around much of the world and begins to appear in English literature around the 17th century, you suspect English contact with Africa around that time via the slave trade led to the transmission of the hypothetical pathogen to England?<br /><br /><i>Is there any ethnographic evidence for cuckold envy in sub-Saharan Africa? Indifference to cuckoldry is fairly common. But cuckold envy?</i><br /><br />Could it simply be that the hypothetical pathogen expresses itself as indifference to cuckoldry among more polygynous cultures such as in sub-Saharan African, and expresses cuckold envy among more monogamous cultures where males traditionally have engaged in strong mate-guarding behavior? <br /><br />Perhaps mate-guarding behavior that has been strongly genetically or culturally ingrained is difficult to get rid of altogether and switched-off to indifference, and it's just easier and more efficient to pervert it.Franknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3734925856292601239.post-82882580018641852422011-05-17T15:19:15.583-04:002011-05-17T15:19:15.583-04:00Traditional African wife sharing<a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/kenya/1477968/Aids-threatens-impoverished-Masai.html" rel="nofollow">Traditional African wife sharing</a>Todnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3734925856292601239.post-40517974076399425592011-05-17T15:07:53.221-04:002011-05-17T15:07:53.221-04:00Tod, Kinkamateur, and others,
Interracial porn an...Tod, Kinkamateur, and others,<br /><br />Interracial porn and cuckold envy seem to tap into the same inversion of male sexual jealousy. There is a lot of overlap between the two, judging by the sites that turned up in my Google search for "wife breeding."<br /><br />Yes, there are all kinds of sexual fetishes. Most of them, however, have low fitness costs. Sperm is cheap, so it doesn't matter whether some ends up in a sheep's vagina. Bestiality, like pedophilia, is probably due to excessive male horniness.<br /><br />In contrast, cuckold envy severely compromises reproductive success. I have trouble understanding how such a predisposition could persist in any human population. It's not as if sexual jealousy is something that men learn. Male sexual jealousy appears to be very hardwired.<br /><br />Jim, <br /><br />You raise an interesting point. An ideal environment for the evolution of sexually transmitted pathogens is one where most women are in polygynous marriages, as is the case in sub-Saharan Africa and Papua New Guinea. <br /><br />On the one hand, the polygynous male cannot sexually satisfy all of his wives. On the other, a lot of young males are locked out of the marriage market, so you get a lot of sex on the sly. <br /><br />If 17th century England is ground zero for the Western world, it's very unlikely that the hypothetical pathogen came from PNG or Australia. So sub-Saharan Africa looks like a prime suspect.<br /><br />Is there any ethnographic evidence for cuckold envy in sub-Saharan Africa? Indifference to cuckoldry is fairly common. But cuckold envy?Peter Frostnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3734925856292601239.post-84032417399839243002011-05-17T05:57:23.936-04:002011-05-17T05:57:23.936-04:00Hmmm, as I read it JB, you're (or were origina...Hmmm, as I read it JB, you're (or were originally) talking about the homogeneous fringe of humanity being susceptible to cuckoldry for genetic reasons, not being manipulated by a actual bug (the references to bugs were by way of anology I think).<br /><br /><b>Since Africans have evolved in a tropical climate which naturally hosts many various parasites, they've co-evolved with parasites that they are host to<br /></b><br /><br />Certain ants should have evolved effective defences to Zombie-Ant Fungus by now, as '<a href="http://www.esa.org/esablog/research/fungus-has-been-invading-carpenter-ants-for-48-million-years/" rel="nofollow">Fungus has been invading carpenter ants for 48 million years</a>'.Todnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3734925856292601239.post-90604651370057801962011-05-17T03:59:23.997-04:002011-05-17T03:59:23.997-04:00Dave, yes that's pretty close except that I sa...Dave, yes that's pretty close except that I said "generalized form of" parasitic castration. In ordinary parasitic castration the parasite itself renders the host infertile so as to route reproductive metabolism to feed the parasite. <br /><br />Female farming increases harem size thereby bifurcating the males into a few alphas and many sneaky betas, some of whom are bisexual. This is horizontal transmission heaven for the evolution of virulence of all kinds. HIV, for instance, is so sophisticated that many doubt it could have naturally evolved! But even they under-estimate its virulence as it is likely to differentially attack the amygdala which is a known metabolic pathway to induce promiscuity (Klüver-Bucy Syndrome). It is easy to imagine all manner of sexual "variations" arising as extended phenotypes in the "independent female" situation.Jim Boweryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12686155123469135528noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3734925856292601239.post-1417133482295294762011-05-17T00:21:21.608-04:002011-05-17T00:21:21.608-04:00What is a problem is a generalized form of parasit...<i>What is a problem is a generalized form of parasitic castration arising from vertically transmitted parasites that have been around Africans longer than those "out of Africa". The low jealousy of the African alpha can prove deadly to populations outside Africa and may, indeed, induce literal cuckoldry by Africans of other populations which, of course, is rationalized away as a sexual "variation".</i><br /><br />If I understand you correctly, are you saying the following:<br /><br />1.Since Africans have evolved in a tropical climate which naturally hosts many various parasites, they've co-evolved with parasites that they are host to<br /><br />2. Many of these parasites are transmitted sexually and can parasitically castrate those susceptible<br /><br />2. Thus when they move into other non-African populations without co-evolution with these parasites, their promiscuous lifestyles end up resulting in these populations being infected<br /><br />3. And this infection is further increased by them not really being sexually jealous and allowing former sex partners infect the population even furtherDavenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3734925856292601239.post-34294818210265191212011-05-16T17:59:48.580-04:002011-05-16T17:59:48.580-04:00Tod misrepresents my "funny ideas". Cuc...Tod misrepresents my "<a href="http://www.oocities.org/jim_bowery/god.html" rel="nofollow">funny ideas</a>". Cuckoldry, in the ordinary vernacular, of whites by blacks is about as much of a problem as is cuckoldry of a male with blue eyes, mated to a female with blue eyes, by a male who has homozygous dominant brown eyes.<br /><br />It just isn't that much of a problem. The female will get caught when it matters most.<br /><br />What is a problem is a generalized form of parasitic castration arising from vertically transmitted parasites that have been around Africans longer than those "out of Africa". The low jealousy of the African alpha can prove deadly to populations outside Africa and may, indeed, induce literal cuckoldry by Africans of other populations which, of course, is rationalized away as a sexual "variation".Jim Boweryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12686155123469135528noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3734925856292601239.post-81252400910640976792011-05-15T18:27:59.031-04:002011-05-15T18:27:59.031-04:00Whatever he means, sexual transmission by African ...<i>Whatever he means, sexual transmission by African women to slaveholders is consistent with the time frame and more plausible than (presumably non-sexual) transmission by a nonhuman species.</i><br /><br />Transmission of what?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3734925856292601239.post-58500514343818188192011-05-15T14:00:25.889-04:002011-05-15T14:00:25.889-04:00JB has some funny ideas about white men being cuck...JB has some funny ideas about white men being cuckolded by Africans. Whatever he means, sexual transmission by African women to slaveholders is consistent with the time frame and more plausible than (presumably non-sexual) transmission by a nonhuman species.Todnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3734925856292601239.post-72909920525590410202011-05-14T22:33:49.065-04:002011-05-14T22:33:49.065-04:00Slaves.
Slavery where?
And where is the evidence...<i>Slaves.</i><br /><br />Slavery where?<br /><br />And where is the evidence for this?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3734925856292601239.post-4274196777240134182011-05-14T18:19:33.470-04:002011-05-14T18:19:33.470-04:00"If 17th-century England is the ground zero f..."If 17th-century England is the ground zero for cuckold envy, where was it beforehand?"<br /><br />Slaves.Jim Boweryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12686155123469135528noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3734925856292601239.post-80499267457925309312011-05-14T13:07:56.790-04:002011-05-14T13:07:56.790-04:00Obviously a man with cuckold envy has a psycholog...Obviously a man with cuckold envy has a psychological disorder but infections may well be a major cause of psychological disorders.<br /><br />I dare say there are parasites which get into a human and produce a behavioral change but do not benefit from the behavior in terms of their reproductive fitness. T. gondii is adapted for influencing the behavior of rats so as to enable itself to reproduce. When T. gondii happens to infect a human it can alter the humans behavior in a way which is maladaptive for the human without helping T. gondii at all. Paraphilias may be caused by all kinds of infections including non parasite ones.Todnoreply@blogger.com