tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3734925856292601239.post7356814817875651954..comments2024-03-22T15:55:34.030-04:00Comments on Evo and Proud: The people before the First NationsPeter Frosthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04303172060029254340noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3734925856292601239.post-58311192703975171072018-01-16T20:18:45.326-05:002018-01-16T20:18:45.326-05:00Peter,
Jordanes describes the Screrefennae and the...Peter,<br />Jordanes describes the Screrefennae and their subsistance.<br /><br />Aimore do show a continuity from Pleistocene Brazilians of Minas Gerais, and are distinct from other New World relicts such as the Chubuti. A recent paper tried to connect them to Arctic populations, but it was none too convincing.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3734925856292601239.post-493500545702530662018-01-16T12:48:11.414-05:002018-01-16T12:48:11.414-05:00Anon,
Tacitus refers to the "Fenni," wh...Anon,<br /><br />Tacitus refers to the "Fenni," who may or may not have been Sami.<br /><br />The Aimore (Botocudos) were not tested in this study, only the Surui, the Karatiana, and the Xavante. The theory is that Paleo-Amerindians replaced a Negrito-like people some 10,000 years ago and perhaps at a later date in remote areas of South America. While there might be surviving cultural traits from that time depth, it would be difficult to prove. People still argue whether jazz music has African influences, and that's a much shallower time depth.<br /><br />Anon,<br /><br />I agree that Dixon's writings are in many ways outdated, but the same could be said for Margaret Mead and Ruth Benedict (two other students of Boas). Yet Dixon has disappeared from anthropology curricula, whereas Mead and Benedict are still widely taught, even at the undergraduate level. Nowadays, anthropology students learn that modern anthropology began with the Boasian school (excluding Dixon) and the British school of social anthropology. Almost everything before is ignored.Peter Frosthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04303172060029254340noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3734925856292601239.post-13950189168329836372018-01-16T07:56:56.120-05:002018-01-16T07:56:56.120-05:00Dixon's writings that you mention, were fairly...Dixon's writings that you mention, were fairly speculative for the day, and in many ways outdated nowadays. In his view Paleolithic Africa was inhabited by four kinds of man, the the Proto-Australoid, Proto-Negroid, the Mongoloid, and the Palae-Alpine. The first of these is not even H. saps, although it might be relevant to the "paleoafrican" component, that diverged in the time of Rhodesian Man, and the supposed Mongoloid is the Bushman-Hottentot type, though Dixon claimed it was present in the Canaries, with traces in Carthage and Egypt(!!!). It is the palae-Alpine that interests us most, because it was this stock he thought to unite the African forest pygmies with the Asian Negritos. Incidentally Dixon believed there were palae-Alpines even in ancient China and Japan, and that the Mon-Khmer language family was brought by palae-Alpine pygmies. He could not decide wether the people of Gerba and the adjacent shores of the Gulf of Gabes, were primitive Alpine pygmies, or Mongoloids. All the same, the world's pygmy races shared a root with Central Europeans, as revealed to Dixon by short statured men in Europe and Atlantic Africa. I confess I am fascinated by this pygmy theory, but the evidence from the European and Atlas Mts is definitively caused by local pathologies. The same populations increased in height with better nutrition during the 20th century, ending the theory of a widespread pygmy race. It feels whimsical now, thanks for linking but connecting Dixon's proven falsehoods to modern theories seems a bad move, no?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3734925856292601239.post-48845996061489984032018-01-15T21:20:19.310-05:002018-01-15T21:20:19.310-05:00The Sami did switch to reindeer herding late, thou...The Sami did switch to reindeer herding late, though. At the time late antique writers were describing Scandinavia, during the Volkswanderung, the Sami were still hunter gatherers.<br /><br />As for the Andamanese type Population Y: please remind me, where do the old Botocudos fit into this? As well as Old World and non-Asian traits, like their hair texture and dolichocrany, Botocudos did have cultural traits, or lack thereof, that make them outliers in South America. For example they didn't revere the jaguar, unlike the Amazon and Andean peoples. What can be gleaned must be insightful, no?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3734925856292601239.post-56692538977320203072018-01-15T10:12:40.204-05:002018-01-15T10:12:40.204-05:00The genetic evidence suggests that ancestral Sami ...The genetic evidence suggests that ancestral Sami split off from other northern Europeans at the height of the last ice age, c. 18,000 BP. They seem to be a third branch of northern Eurasians, having characteristics of both northern Europeans and East Asians. <br /><br />As to whether northern Europeans will be replaced as completely as the Negritos of the Amazon Basin, well, time will tell.Peter Frosthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04303172060029254340noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3734925856292601239.post-73924782964043884572018-01-13T13:42:55.616-05:002018-01-13T13:42:55.616-05:00I was thinking of the Sami as a very diluted remna...I was thinking of the Sami as a very diluted remnant of indigenous north European hunters. But maybe you have your own ideas about whether North Europeans could have been as completely replaced as the indigenous peoples of Tierra del Fuego were.Seannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3734925856292601239.post-18118542216893701302018-01-12T19:00:51.578-05:002018-01-12T19:00:51.578-05:00Not really. I suppose you could say that both grou...Not really. I suppose you could say that both groups are hunter-gatherers, but even that's debatable. Food gathering is a very limited source of food among the Sami, whereas it's very important in all of the Negrito groups.Peter Frosthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04303172060029254340noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3734925856292601239.post-20883323975078281912018-01-12T13:16:20.655-05:002018-01-12T13:16:20.655-05:00I suppose the European counterparts of Negritos wo...I suppose the European counterparts of Negritos would be the Sami. Seannoreply@blogger.com